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aircraft, the likes of which the world has never seen. this is what we do. ♪ that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. no suicide note but doctors knew the germanwings pilot was not fit to fly. i'm toure. and as we come on the air, the 27-year-old co-pilot who deliberately flew an airbus a-320 into a mountain may have hit ongoing medical temperature from his employers.
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the latest chilling development. they found doctors orders for sick leave and not fit to fly. it was ripped up and covered the day of the crash. they found the original copy and the carbon copy of the note leading indicators that lubitz intentionally lied to his bosses by not telling them. lubitz received psychiatric treatment for a serious depressive episode six years ago and lately had a severe relationship crisis. and his files had a sic code special, regular medical requirement. but a hospital said he was a patient of theirs two weeks
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before the crash and they refused to confirm they treated him for depression. and those records are with investigators. in the alps. investigators were choppered in and each paired with a mountain pritor for safety. they are there solely to search for dna and help to preserve the crash scene. claudio is there. what do you have? >> the day drawing to close. it is about 8:00 in the evening. the rescue has been called off for the day but will start at the crack of the dawn tomorrow. this is a very very complicated operation. we have hundreds of thousands of scattered debris. the plane smashed into the mountain at high speed so there is not a single recognizable
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plane, a fuselage or wing that we have seen back in previous aviation disasters. and also the issue of the recovery of the bodies. what we did hear today from a colonel in the french national police department that unfortunately they have not been able as of today, to find any completely entire remains but only body parts. of course we get details by the day. in the meantime as you said it is very difficult to get there. they used four helicopters today to fly back and forth from this airfield where i'm staying to drop the 15 investigators, two at a time, on the crash scene. that means the recovery operation will continue for a number of days if not weeks. in the meantime the german investigators believe, as you said, there is a link between this mysterious illness. we have not heard the nature of it. the illness that should have prevended andreas lubitz from
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working for a number of days including the day he did board the germanwings flight and he did lock the pilot outside of the cabin and just decided for any reason -- reasons still yet unknown, to fly that plane into the mountains, bringing 149 innocent people with him. and now we don't know the nature of that illness but we do know that about six years ago he went through a six-month period for he took six months off his training at lufthansa because of a burnt-out syndrome because of some depression and we'll have to see whether this illness should have prevented him from working. and if this is anything similar? >> nbc's claudia laugh ago gnaw in the alps. and the fbi is looking into the time lubitz spent training at an arizonaflight school. and joining us with more on that tom costello. we know he had an interruption
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in his training. nbc has not confirmed the cause but you spoke with a psychologist who gave you information on that. >> not on his particular visit in arizona but just on the people who -- and there are people all over the world, as you know who deal with depression. and i think the point that many psychologists would make is that depression does not mean somebody will become suicidal and somebody who is suicidal certainly wouldn't become homicidal. but mental health experts say we should be characterize about what happened here. and here is a quick interview i did with a doctor here in washington this morning. >> the vast majority of people who are depressed would never get to a place of harming another person. the distinction that i would imagine most likely is that the brain of this individual was in
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a much different place than the typical extremely depressed person who doesn't feel like continuing to live. it is quite possible that he couldn't function and was at a state where mentally he was not functioning even as well as someone who is severely depressed. >> dr. witter screen wants to under score she knlt speak to this case and has no inside knowledge but she does speak from the evidence coming from the prosecutor this individual committed suicide and homicide and those type of circumstances are very very rare and would suggest somebody who is not in their right state of mind. now we have no idea what his state of mind was or whether he a mental health condition prior to this incident but clearly that is what the fbi is looking at as it relates to his time in arizonawhere he spent time taking flying lessons. and the rules in the united states changed. the faa changed the rules five
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years ago as it relates to pilots and mental health to encourage people to come out and take the stigma away and seek help and to seek medicine to become healthy and allow pilots to fly on certain antidepressants to prove they are well and stable and a doctor has signed off on that. and prior to this the last 50 or 60 years, anybody with a mental health issue would not be welcome in the cockpit or any work environments. that is changing rather dramatically over the last 15 or 20 years where the faa is changing and saying if you need help or counseling or meds you can do that and there is still a path back to the cockpit. back to you. >> tom costello, very important perspective. back with us today investigator greg fiej and john cox. john we are hearing indicators
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that the pilot was not well and the company did not know about that. but what does it fake to get a pilot grounded when folks around them are saying i'm not sure about that guy? >> well it varies from country to country. but in most cases and particularly in north america, what you have is a professional standards group and if somebody indicates they are having difficulties because of a family crisis and usually this is like a child that is ill or has been in an automobile accident or a spouse that is ill, it is something that distracted them from flying the airplane. the other pilots in a peer review will make that known to a standards group without putting that person's career in jeopardy and this has been done for decades. it is quiet and not publicized and most airline pilots in the united states or north america have this capability.
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and this is to a varying degree true in other parts of the world. but it is increasing. which is a good thing. because the thing that you want is those peer groups around you -- because pilots work very close to one another. the peer group, if they see something is wrong, there needs to be a non-jeopardy way of getting the person the help they need. >> greg, how about that? does that work? >> i think it has worked here in the united states very effectively and john is the one to talk to with regard to how it works at u.s. airways when he was there. but we don't know what lufthansa had in place for this. and there is a fear factor if there is a medical condition that could put your career in jeopard, there is a probability that somebody could try to conceal that issue just because of the fact -- and in this young man's case he loved to fly and thought this medical condition -- and we have to be very cautious here because we
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don't know if it was a physiological illness or a mental illness that these notes were written for. it could be a combination of both. but if the pilot believed this could jeopardize his career as an airline pilot that may be enough of a figure to cause him to do what he did. >> and unless the doctor informed the airliner or the pilot, nobody knows there is a problem there. and as we learn more about the co-pilot, we hear he was busht out and -- burnt out and maybe depression, but airlines have physical reevaluation but not necessarily mental evaluations or a life event that can change your mental state. that can happen at any point in your life. it seems crazy they don't have a mental evaluation -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> greg, go ahead. >> i think that will form the
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basis for the next level of discussion. they go through a mental process as far as a battery of tests when they are first employed but after they are employed there is no recurrent mental process or examination like there is for a medical to make surer fit to fly. i think in this young man's case what needs to be looked at is why he was burned out and possibly depressed six years or whatever it was ago and see how that relates because if they were medically treating him at that time for some sort of depression, was that reported to the airline? and if so is that why they put him on a special review? i think there is some information floating around out there he may have been on an annual review so they possibly knew of medical issues and tracked him through that process and a culmination of life events in the most recent past and additional bad medical news to
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him may have all come together to cause him to take his life and those of the 149 other people on the airline. >> john lufthansa and its insurers are beginning to think about compensating the victims' families for the disaster and some experts are saying liability could be unlimited and there is every indication that lufthansa is willing to make the payouts but i'm wondering if the insurance portion might lead to risk management a more unified idea of how to prevent this sort of thing from happening again? >> well aviation throughout the years has dealt with risk management from the very beginning, from the very first flight of the wright brothers. so risk management is something aviation is one of the leading industries in the world and what we do with it is not only risk management is looking backwards at what has happened but it is also predictive in looking forward, and to identify a risk
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and to intervene and have the risk mitigated before it actually occurs. and we're getting better and better at that. which means this is one of the mechanisms we've used to get aviation to be as safe as it is today. it is the safest form of public transportation designed by mankind and management is a key part of how we've achieved that. >> have to say that over and over. aviation is the safest form of travel mankind has designed. up next. two more americans arrested for trying to join isis. what is drawing americans to isis. and whose fight is the u.s. on in the war against -- who is the war against? and as college decisions roll in. "the new york times" said not getting in harvard won't necessarily ruin your life. i didn't get into harvard and i'm on "the cycle." whether my life is ruined is up to you to decide.
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we are now four days until time runs out technically for a deal with iran on the nukes but the situation is far more complicated than that. we talked this week about the proxy war between yemen, saudi arabia and iran and there is no question the white house is in a major foreign policy bind here. in yemen, the u.s. is fighting terrorist groups backed by iran but in terrorist groups they are fighting isis. but if that is not complicated, this week, two americans, including a 2-year-old army national guardsman arrested for allegedly trying to join isis. a lot to discuss as we have a
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busy time with david rots ss kaff. we take it as a given that this is on being more than one side with iran is that automatically a bad thing? >> it is not automobilely lyautomatically a bad thing, but if we are playing one side against another. but it doesn't look like we have such a plan. and the contradictions are everywhere. we are on the side of iran and we are against iran. we are fighting rebel forces in syria and against the government in syria. we want to liberate iraq but we have problems with government of iraq. israel is our closest ally and we have the worst relationship between leaders that we've ever
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had between the united states and the leaders. it is rife with contradictions and it has con dictions. >> and it is so complex and even the smartest minds in the industry is trying to wrap their minds around what is going on. the atlantic has a satirical piece out today, called the confused person's guide to the middle east conflicts. there is some truth. they said forces to choose between confronting and appeasing iran the president is forced to do post. and the new york post has a similar piece. the administration is racing to get this deal done with iran. how can this all possibly fit together? i mean does the administration have a long-term cohesive strategy here? or are they potentially making this even more chaotic? >> i don't think they have a
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long-term cohesive strategy here. there is certainly no evidence of a long-term cohesive strategy here. and i think they are making it chaotic. i think the mistakes in egypt and the mistakes in syria and getting out of iraq too quickly and the mistakes in not dealing with the allies in the region and not negotiating with iran we have made it worse. and i have to say, that satirical take is amusing because it is complicated, but it is worse than that. think about this. for the first time in modern memory every single country in the middle east is involved in a military conflict with the exception of aman. from libya to afghanistan, every country is involved in a war and the one thing we know is it will get worse before it gets better it. will get worse in yemen and syria and iraq and that ought to be troubling because we don't
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have a strategy and the situation is disturbing the whole region and it will get worse. >> david, you posted in foreign policy this week a thoughtful article about whether pursuing a nuclear deal with iran is a threat or a distraction and you mention other threats, cyber threats. at the same time wouldn't it be arguable that this provides the administration with a through-line to set a foundation dealing with one country on an issue of major importance that could perhaps provide some order out of all of this chaos. >> well first of all, i've never been called thoughtful on this program. >> she's not a regular. >> i could see that. there has been a terrible mix-up. [ laughter ] >> the reality is that it could, if we made a couple of seizy steps. if we said look we're going to take this deal and make iran less of a threat through this deal. but we see the threats it poses
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to the region and cyber threats f. we work with our partners in the region jordan the gulf and egypt and we worked with them to alay their fears and very conscious of balancing the issues in the region. but thus far if you look at the past six years, our relationships with our allies have deteriorated and the one country that has been the gainer in this is iran. and that is why the allies are nervous and the saudis took it upon themselves to move into yemen because they were afraid we wouldn't do anything and the situation with deteriorate and the iranians would gain even further. >> and david you are a pensive person and we think about the reason we want to keep iran from getting the protection of israel, and that is important. but israel has a way of protecting themselves against that already. do you think that the threat of mutually assured destruction
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would keep iran from using it if the process broke down and they were able to get a bomb. >> i think deterrence would work against iran and frankly i think the nuclear threat from iran is not the worst threat that it poses. the threat of regional gains -- the gains it's been making and like hezbollah and hamas and the cyber conflict it is waging against us and others all of those are serious problems. furthermore, i don't think the objective is purely to protect israel. another component of this thing is we don't want nuclear proliferation to continue throughout the region if iran were to get a bomb and others say we must have it. and that is what is worrisome about the deal. if it only looks like it will keep iran a little way away from having a bomb other countries like the saudis will say well then we need to have a bomb. an the problem with that is not
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a war, the problem is the more bombs in this region the more likely one or two of them fall into the wrong hands and we have a disaster we can't control through deterrence. >> david this segment has been somewhat depressing but not because of you, but because of your clarity because of the depressing stuff around the world and the middle east. thank you for your time david roth could have. and we'll get the latest on the massive building collapse here in new york city and some of the people still missing. is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. it's just you and your honey. the setting is perfect. but then erectile dysfunction happens again. plenty of guys have this issue
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it is time to get you into the news cycle. they tell me this is what we do around here. let's start with new york city. yesterday we had a terrifying situation downtown. right now two people are unaccounted for. 25 people in total were injured, including four firefighters and one other first responder. msnbc adam riese is in the west
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village. adam, what is going on behind you. >> reporter: they have moved into the search and rescue part of the operation. canine dogs entered the site about an hour ago, still looking for two people unaccounted for. one 23-year-old eating in the ground florida japanese restaurant at the time of the explosion and the other person a worker at the restaurant. firefighters are still here and they want to make sure they put out any smoldering pockets of fire and the excavation has begun. they are getting rid of the debris in the place of the building. in addition to that 25 people are injured. four critical. it all began yesterday afternoon when con ed workers came here to check on gas and plumbing pipes. the restaurant did not pass inspection and about an hour later the building exploded. lisa. >> adam riese in new york's east village. let's turn to the big news from capitol hill today. and neither house is in session. harry reid leader of the senate
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democrats is calling it quits after five terms in the u.s. senate, including eight years as the top senator in the chamber. kelly o'donnell is live for us. kelly, the obvious question, who will replace it. >> reporter: it would appear chuck schumer of new york is the most predictable successor. and say that because he's been in leadership and dick durbin has agreed not to challenge him and reid has thrown his support behind schumer. so it would appear that is the way it will go. and there is still a long way to go before we'll know. it will be closer before the end of the term we also have two years to go and the democrats will choose the top roster for the next term. it is possible another member could emerge but schumer has brought skills to this job.
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and reid has the back room mastery to work behind the scene to count the votes and get people to come together. and chuck schumer has those skills but more comfortable in front of television cameras and in the world we live in now, that is a set of skills that is very useful. chuck schumer will be the first to tell you he is teased to be the person running to get in front of the camera. it is a standard joke in new york and one he embraces. that is a ways off before it is formal but there isn't any emerging challenger suggests that is the way it will go. harry reid still has time and much to do. this is in some ways a surprise and yet when you look at the situation, his age of 75 and the injuries he's been through, how hard another campaign in nevada would be it is in many ways a reasonable and even expected decision. lisa. >> kelly o'donnell on capitol hill thanks. and now to breaking news in
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the amenda knox appeal. we are expecting to learn whether an italian court will uphold her appeal. chapman cox for us. this is taking longer than expected expected. >> the it is taking a -- it is taking a lot longer than expected. they slated one day and they realized they needed more time and rolled it over to friday. and now it is 8:30 in the evening here in rome. and so the judges have had this case to consider for over eight hours now. it could mean they are carefully considering all of the various angles of this case and many of the facts they have to consider in such a crucial stage of this case against amanda knox and her former boyfriend, that they need to come up with -- with what
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they consider to be the final verdic. so it has taken a lot longer but the courtroom is filling up with journalists and the legal team. peel are all around the courthouse waiting to get the notification that the judges will come back into the courtroom and deliver their verdict in this case. lisa. >> chapman bell in rome thank you. and guys only someone who hasn't followed the amanda knox case -- >> is there anyone who hasn't. >> it is another example of how the italian justice system isn't here but eventually our eyes might look at the extradition and the treaty between the u.s. and italy, there might be grounds for her to go back but legally, i don't know how it could happen. >> this is a blockbuster case and americans know about it and identify with her. if you are interested in extradition extradition, there is no automatic right to move a person
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under international law from one country to another and that is why they have the treaties. but the treaties say you will try to return the person unless there are good reasons, the kind of reasons you wouldn't return someone is torture or the fear of the death penalty where they don't want to return someone to another country for something unconstitutional. they don't have those bars but if they want to bring her back they could do so legally. >> so even if she is guilty she's not going back there? >> i think it is highly unlikely to see her going back. why would america want to send this girl back. that would look horrible for us? >> it is a fascinating case in that way. here in the case we understand amanda knox to be in a way a victim too in addition to the woman who died. >> because shoes been subject to a legal understand, this case
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has gone on for a long time and as you pop the pond and in europe, you see a different sense of the case and it is what international law is about. >> but they haven't let this go. and maybe that is part of it ari. we have been watching from afar and this continues on and on. they are so convinced she's guilty. >> and there are two layers to that. it is parochial. people will root for the american that is fair to say in a lot of cases. but people have followed it it is a frustrating process. we have a different system. if you get off on a case that is the end. there is no a -- an appeal for better or worse. for people to say years on and she is acquitted and they are doing it over, the whole case over again and that feels unnormal. >> for them it is normal. >> coming up the court.
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just about now 18-year-olds are getting envelopes from not yeses and noes dreams fulfilled and crushed, because in america you get into great schools i'll have a great life and if you don't, you won't. or maybe not. as frank writes for too many parents and their children getting into a highly selective school isn't just another challenge or just another goal from amherst or dartmouth or
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duke, or northwestern, it is a binding verdict on the life that he or she has led up until that point, annin contestable hash inker of the successes or disappointed to come winner or loser, this is when the judgment comes. from frank bruni, in the op ed from last april. >> your face is so classical. >> i wish you had to done the audio for my book. i didn't read it with that flare. >> would you be happy to do it for a price. and you are a great writer. but we know the world is run by people who went to harvard, yale and princeton and why are you telling people to be happy with going to a lesser school. >> because that is true this is a myth. where the ceo's have gone
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undergraduate, and there was only one ivy league school. we are telling people things are greet and peaches, and if they are not, many people go to others. >> and they are great. >> you are what you make of your college career and who you are when you went in and when you get out. it is not about the name on the diploma and we are doing a disservice to a generation of kids and whipping them into a state of anxiety they are in right now. >> and it is an argument, you are talking about the construction of prestige and so many young people obsessed with that and you are a good messenger and in a columnar you talk about more than one way to get there for folks at home who are ambitious and want to make something of themselves. what are examples from your
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reporting and work here of people who have gone that different route. >> you mentioned my column let me look around in my office she went to catholic and or went to market tom freedman began at university of minnesota. so just right there, people would write to me and i would write college columns tell me where you and your colleagues went to school. i can tell you "the new york times" who did not go there. charles bowe grambling state. >> and students are now grappling of where to go to school but let's go for the class of 2020 and beyond kids who haven't started to apply or parents who haven't started to neurotically freak out. >> oh, they have started to neurotically freak out. >> but can kids and their parents engineer this process differently going in to end up with schools better to reflect the philosophy in the book.
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>> i think they can show what they are interested in. and everyone is spending the energy and the time to getting into the most selective school you can manage to get into. what if we have a conversation about how will you use college. about where you are as a human being and what you need become big tore complete-- bigger to complete yourself and what college will do for you. and if with you send them off focused on how to make the most of the four years and they will be better off in the long run. >> and we talk about how messed up our education system is here in the u.s. and the key takeaway is helping young people find the passion and give them the skill sets they need to get a job and hopefully a job that makes them happy. and what i always said is not everyone has to go to a four-year institution. there are more ways to do it. you could go take classes online for free. you could go to a two-year specialized education. >> abby hold on. liftoff, scott kelly is
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embarking on a unique space expedition. nasa will test space on kelly, compared to his brother, who will remain on earth. >> now separating from the tower, marking less than 15 seconds. the engine is igniting. ramping up. and liftoff. a year in space starts now. on the way towards the international space station. getting good first stage performance. delivering about 93000 pounds of thrust on the strap-on boosters and force, into nominal operations measuring 68 foot in
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length burning liquid fool for the first # 2:06 into flight. >> continuing to get views from the cabin inside as you heard nasa a smooth flight into orbit for the cruise members. >> 60 seconds. copy. >> they come up on 70 seconds into flight and the velocity is around 1100 miles per hour fin continuing to get good data from the aircraft. >> all parameters of the control system phenomenal. >> the crew looking good inside.
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again pedonaa in the center. >> .08 seconds, everything is fine on board and feeling good. >> the shroud has been jetissoned. the first stage has separated. >> and at this point the four strappon boosters of the statute has been jettisons and traveling right now traveling at about 3,350 miles per hour.
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>> watching amazing pictures. i'm so jealous of those guys. a year in space sound as mazing but how will they get to read frank bruni's new york times columns every week. frank boony, thank you so much for your time. the book is important and timely. people should check it out. we'll be right back with more cycle. caring for someone with alzheimer's means i am a lot of things. i am her best friend. i am her ally. so i asked about adding once-daily namenda xr to her current treatment for moderate to severe alzheimer's. it works differently. when added to another alzheimer's treatment, it may improve overall function and cognition. and may slow the worsening of symptoms for a while. vo: namenda xr doesn't change how the disease progresses. it shouldn't be taken by anyone allergic to memantine, or who's had a bad reaction to namenda xr or its ingredients. before starting treatment, tell their doctor
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sweet 16 the all four games won but not without march madness. wisconsin and last year's overtime loss to the badgers. in the meantime, the fighting irish showed who's got the luck on their side. notre dame will take on kentucky saturday, which just crushed west virginia last night. the final score was 78-39. it's the first time since the 40s that a team has doubled up. joining me now our guest. last night, wisconsin, big win. proof that the upper classmen
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can actually dominate, huh? >> sam decker, a junior. we talk so much about kentucky's freshman. jones at duke. how about wisconsin coming back? they hope to get back to another final four back to back years under bowe ryan. >> no doubt. >> i want to talk about something that happened off the court that i think goes to wisconsin's poise and sense of humor. complete adorableness. cute emergency. let's role the tape. >> okay. god, she's beautiful. did you hear that? >> all right. so we'll open it up to questions. >> proof that a hot mic is not always a bad thing, right? >> did he get her number? >> i hope he did. >> that was nigel hayes, who is the same guy with the stenographer. i don't know if anybody saw the
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story, but before he was basically saying weird, uncharacteristic words so that the stenographer would have to type out exactly what he was saying. >> is this all a gigantic psych-out? >> he's our loose cannon guy and every team needs one. he is going to be a lottery pick in the nba draft. >> speaking of loose cannon guys that's what abby thinks i am. >> not just me. i want to be clear. >> do you remember "fargo" when they're stuffing somebody into the wood chipper and just eviscerating them? that was kentucky last night with west virginia. completely eviscerated. it wasn't a game after the first minute. i mean like how can a person of your level of intelligence continue to doubt that not only will these guys win, but they will destroy all comers? >> maybe it's because of my
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level of intelligence. >> whoa! >> you know what? they were unbelievable impressive. west virginia beat them as the number one seat. they're going to be 36-1. there's the ones with the pressure. there is a lot of pressure on kentucky, that's what makes this even more impressive. we haven't seen an undefeated team since 1976 win a championship. >> i don't know imagine that those guys with coach cal are feeling if we lose our lives will be ruined. we're way better when the game starts and they start to prove it. >> they've got on interesting history, don't they? >> they do. you look at arizona. we haven't talked about them. another team similar to kentucky under the radar. they have a ton of young
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players. they rely on them. haven't been in the final four since 2001. i think arizona is the second most talented team in the country. >> behind kentucky. >> there's no question kentucky is the most talented team. >> can we talk about my team for just a second? >> byu? >> don't say that again. university of utah. i'll be watching the game. i'm so excited for this. >> duke is a slight favorite. here's a big number with that game. utah is 20-0 this season. utah wants to play fast. so does duke. i think dikeuke's a little bit better. utah has gone from one of the worst teams in college basketball in three years to one of the best. i think this is a really dangerous game for duke. they're my pick to win it all, the blue devils, but this is
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maybe their toughest test. they have a center 7 footer from austria. he's really good. >> i remember going to the sweet 16 when utah made it. we talk about a lot about the importance of the coaches. he had a special way of getting these guys to perform. >> he did. this new guy, their head coach, has taken them from nowhere to this. they have a senior point guard. we love seniors. you know i do. going to be a lottery pick. 6'5". duke is going to struggle with utah because utah has really good talent and they play good defense. utah is going to win, but it is going to be close. >> i miss the days that the team were together long enough that you got to know the team. if you're a senior you're not that good. most of the time most of the time. >> some got good late.
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the top democrat in congress is retiring. and another big story. the high court set to deliver a verdict on the amanda knox case. it's friday, march 27th and this is "now." >> another stunning development this morning in the crash of that germanwings flight. the co-pilot appears to have hidden evidence of an illness from his employers. >> we can predict it is some kind of mental illness. >> he had no criminal record. >> this does not fit. >> there is the self-disclosure issue which is part of the medical confidentiality issues. >> pilots


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